“Today my darlings I bring you and anyone who happens by a few bits of advice for those just starting out in Fat Acceptance or just accepting themselves. I will be using Fuck Yeah Chubby Girls from Tumblr as part of an object lesson. Just so we’re on the same page here this is not at all a personal level indictment of the person who was running that tumblr nor of any of the posters. This is as Webster defines it: Definition of OBJECT LESSON : something that serves as a practical example of a principle or abstract idea”
— My Mama hat is on over at my blog. Go read, frolic.
This is brilliant and kind of covers my thoughts to a T. Especially:
Acceptance is not about any of the following:
- Who will or won’t fuck you.
- Who you will or won’t fuck.
- Promoting or advocating any particular lifestyle, diet (as in way of eating), level of ability, health status etc.
- Rejecting all other ways of being in a body. As in “Real women have curves” type shit.
- Acceptance “in spite of” insert phrases like-“no boobs” “fat ass” “flappy arms” “big feet” etc here
- You approving of anyone.
- Anyone approving of you.
awesome blog post on fat acceptance! many good points, especially
I believe that if you are going to run something like FYCG and you present it as a space about body acceptance it is important to ask your contributors to abide by that. And if you are going to present this thing you’re doing as one thing, please remember that people pointing out the flaws in your presentation is not generally an attack on you individually.
god i love the internet for introducing me to articulate folk who are putting into words all my frustration and hope.
This was the summer of last year. I used to be what was considered “obese.” I still have thick legs but a smaller waist. I still feel subconscious about myself, but seeing your blog and all these confident thick women makes me feel like I have nothing to be ashamed of. Thank you.
i thought this blog was supposed to be fat positive??? instead it is showing before and after pics of dieting??? what a fatohobic pile of shame.
Hey guys! That’s my second sumission, and I’m here because I have REALLY good news for my self, I lost weight! yaaay!
No, I don’t hate my body, I just started to have a healthy life, and now I’m not a 188 pounds, like I was last month…I’m a 182!
That’s cool for me, I guess, and I wanted to share with you, that being chubby is ok, but having a realley healthy life is better!
Lari. (And now I’m addicted to strawberrys)
WTF fuckyeahchubbygirls?!?!? WTF is with the fatphobic bullshit here? “being chubby is ok, but having a realley healthy life is better!’????? what is this celebration of dieting doing on what is supposed to be a fat positive blog? shame shame shame.
A time ago i was always behind the camera. But now,i like being snapped, even shirtless if you require ;-)
this is from a tumblr called “queerfathungry”.
like any self-respecting fashion-magazine-reading straight-girl i feel a little bit bulimic after seeing this picture of a deep-fried mars bar…
but look at the shirt! those are the neighbourhoods of victoria, british columbia. my old home. nostalgic!
HOLD UP! I am gonna call bullshit on this. I don’t think that it’s self-respecting to feel bulimic after seeing a picture of a happy person enjoying their food and loving their body. I will not be used as a cautionary tale!
Get this: I. FUCKING. LOVE. BEING. FAT.
I love how solid, strong, capable, soft, warm, foxy, hairy, bumpy, and badass my body is, and how well it carries my heart and mind through the world.
So you do your thing, and I’ll do mine, but I will not silently let this kind of shit be said about my body or my fatties. I mean, have you seen my blog? fer cryin’ out loud.
*note: I have no intention of implying that struggling with bulimia means that you defacto don’t respect yourself. I’m in solidarity with ALL fatties. <3
FUCK YES. THANK YOU
I really appreciate your FY! Chubby Girls Tumblr, but I do have a problem with the fact that a lot of the girls you feature aren’t actually what most people would consider “chubby”. Curvy, maybe! What made you choose that adjective specifically?
I didn’t choose it, Amy did. If a girl submits and says she’s had body issues and feel as if she has chub, is it really up to me to email her back and tell her to get over herself and that she’s not chubby? I feel like people should be able to accept all ranges of “chubbiness” without getting offended or upset. The point of the blog to me, is overcoming self doubts and liking what you have.
I’m sorry if this offends anyone else but this blog has helped girls that range from all sorts of sizes and I’m not going to begin to be the judgement if a girl doesn’t fit into a stereotypical size range, because that’s the opposite of what I want the blog to be like. If a girl tells me she’s had body issues and this blog has helped her love her body, I am going to post her picture because that in itself is amazing. The more people who accept the fact that big is beautiful, is better.
there is an interesting conversation going on here, to which i contributed the rather cranky response: “your stance is depoliticizing. thanks for appropriating and sanitizing chubby to NOT address power dynamics of body hierarchies.” now here at my own blog, i have the space to expand on this point and explain myself.
within a patriarchal world, it is a struggle for all women to love their bodies and feel comfortable within them. i believe that everyone should be able to love themselves and their bodies, and that this is, indeed, a beautiful thing. body acceptance is an admirable political goal. absolutely all people should learn about accepting self image and overcome their insecurities.
however, this is not about general size acceptance. this is about being “chubby.” to say, “One persons chubby is another persons curvy is another persons fat” is problematic and alarmingly neutralizing of the politics at play.
i believe that when we indulge skinny folks’ tendency to call themselves “fat,” lament their “fat” and then reclaim it, we perpetuate fatphobia.
it is fatphobia because it fails to recognize that actual-in-life fat people experience daily prejudice and are materially limited in a number of ways. To say “sizes & shapes of people don’t matter, the skinny are just as able to see fault in themselves as the chubby” is sweet yet naive. skinny folks who see faults still get to walk down the streets, shop for clothes, flirt, fuck and ride in airplanes with greater ease than fatties, being read by probably most people around them as skinny, regardless of their own self-image.
fuckyeahchubbygirls’ stance is fatphobia because it fails at addressing the root problems of fatphobia, such as why skinny folks fear being fat in the first place. it fails to address the impact this fat-fear of skinny folks has on real fat people, and our self esteem, and how frustrating it is for us to have to deal with their fat anxieties.
it is fatphobia because it celebrates skinny folks ability to get over being “fat” and accept their bodies, implying that it should be just as easy for the actual chubbies. it puts skinny folks back at the centre of the discussion, the photo shoots, the blogs and the imagery - and yet now as our “chubby” representatives. what does that make us, “extra-fat”?
it is fatphobia because it appropriates the term “chubby” and sanitizes it so it means basically nothing. there are parallels that can be made here about white feminism’s tendency to celebrate privileged women’s ability to love themselves, without addressing how race, class, sexuality and ability mediate other women’s attempts at self-love. the stance of fuckyeahchubbygirls is fatphobic because it robs “chubby” of its radical political potential, just as white feminism impoverishes feminist politics. in other words, it is simplifying and depoliticizing.
ultimately, it’s about power. i believe in everyone’s right to love their bodies. at the same time, we must consider how power operates in these situations in order to avoid depoliticizing the hierarchies. it is not a level playing field, even if we all love our bodies.
as tropigalia wrote: “i kind of wish there were another tumblr that was about general size acceptance. i can see non-chubby girls being celebrated anywhere.” if fuckyeahchubbygirls has decided to be about general body acceptance, and skinny folks getting over their fear of being fat, then it should not use the term “chubby.”
lastly, this is an important discussion and it needs to happen. to call it “just another kind of snobbery” or “judgmental” or to conclude “if you don’t like how the blog is run, don’t follow it” is to silent crucial, educational and radical criticism and dissent.